N a p a l m H e a l t h S p a : R e p o r t 2 0 1 1
ALLEN
GINSBERG
Letters
to David Cope (1976-1990)
[2011
Note: this typescript transcribed by my daughter Jane Cope from printout
of letters—the file they’re from long lost. Jane asked where my
letters to Allen might be; I responded, "likely in Allen’s archive at
Stanford—I was young and didn’t have sense to preserve my correspondence
in those pre-computerized days." The original letters and postcards from Allen are archived in the David Cope Papers at the University of Michigan Special Collections Library: http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=sclead&idno=umich-scl-cope. DC]
[1]
March 18, 1976
Dear David Cope: I enjoyed The Stars you sent: clear observation,
humble or straight-forward attitude toward ordinary reality, spaciousness of
view from asphalt under yr feet up to the sky turning blue & good humored
appreciation of your own sanity. "Staring blankly … empty city" …Baseball, "old woman highway home
coffee," "fisherman jerks…white belly" …Crash "hands in pockets" … Lavender sky, Three Fields tractor deer tracks
[illegible] Dreaming on you —in
fact just about every poem had real neat solid realistic "ordinary-mind-romantic-realistic
lines …"these things are enough this morn." Yes. You're so smart! and right! Some remind me of my own Empty Mirror. Send me a dozen copies, bill me, & I'll send yr Stars to other poets like Snyder &
Whalen. Thank you—Allen Ginsberg.
[side bar] I
don't often receive poem books readable as yours.
[2]
Paterson NJ
April 13, 76p
[Letter responding to
my request that my chapbook be sent to Charles Reznikoff:]
Ah David Cope
Alas Reznikoff died about 2 months ago—82 years
old. I'd supped with him in Lincoln Towers middleaged
apartments Westside Manhattan ago—[illegible]—winter nite stars over the city + cars passing by West Side
[illegible] streets 12 floors below.
I read your poems—parts—side by side w/ Reznikoff's
texts as sample of clear eyed method—Black Sparrow has vol. I Complete Rez work now out.
Look me up if our paths ever cross—
Allen Ginsberg
Thanks for the books. I'll send them to Ferlinghetti,
Creeley, Rakosi, Laughlin +
Bunting etc. & Dylan. Enclosed $12 for token costs.
[Sidebar] PS. Please send me any later
publications—It was such a pleasure to look thru yr clear skull in Stars.
[3]
[left sidebar]
August 28, 1976
David: I re-read The Stars & still am
tickled by your simplicity + precision—Big Scream [,] Rain, Ferry's [illegible], The Ball Game, Waking Together 1 of 3, + The
Wind esp. #3 sustain your clear mind's [illegible].
I know some other young poets whose imagistic realism you might like—are
you looking for matter for Big Scream [Cope's magazine], or interested in
checking out other folks' stirrings?
The rest of the work in Scream was also readable. How old are you what do you
do for money? [illegible] new booklets? I sent yr Stars to James Laughlin, 333 6th Ave N.
Y. who appreciated it—as well as to Rakosi + a
few others. Send me more copies of The
Stars, if you have them.
Love, Allen Ginsberg
[4]
October 8, 1967 [1976]
Dear David Cope:
Thanks for the clear poem + letters. Back from Berlin + Paris, I brought The
Stars & read half of it to Gregory Corso, who
asked me to send him a copy, which am doing, of the 5 new ones you sent me.
It's a good book; I sent one to Oppen also who read +
liked it. I didn't mean to plunge you into Baudelariain
Bohemia. It's just that I've seen clear + lovely work by about 10 poets in
recent years, a surprising harvest, some kinda
wave of new clarity + charm + energy—from diverse [illegible] such as yrself. Thanks for mind photos. ––Allen
Ginsberg.
[right sidebar]
I meditate on this empty sky-colored image of Buddha.
[5]
Dec. 10, 1976
Dear David Cope:
Please send along w./ enclosed note copies of Big
Scream #3 + your Stars to poet/editor
Harvey Shapiro at N.Y. Times. The note's self-explanatory. That's one way of
getting money.
Touring + reading is a lot of work and I can't explain in letter how to do
it—requires activity publishing, or accident, etc.
Try to send work to Lewis McAdams S.F. State College Poetry Center, S.F. Calif, and to Ann Waldman at Naropa
Institute re St. Mark's in N.Y.C. But nobody has money for fare that
distance.
If there's any school around Grand Rapids that would be willing to pay me my
"standard" fee of $1,500 (or $1000 bargain price) + fare, I'd be glad
to give a reading with you + leave you with half the fee. That should pay
for some printing. I'll probably be out reading / touring this Spring. (I'd have to check dates with my agent Charles
Rothschild 330 E. 48 St N.Y.C. 10017 212- PL
287533). Our manila enveloped letters crossed in the mail. Have you
applied for Government Grants? Or [illegible] National
Endowment? C.C.L.M etc? You can get information also from Poets +
Writers, 201 W54th St. N.Y. 212-PL-71766 "Directory of Amer
Poets" gives schools that have readings.
At this point I can't exactly tell you "how to" though I'd be glad to
read with you if you can arrange any readings using me as bait.
Ah
Allen G
If you could xerox a complete mss.
of a book of poems by you all prepared, I'd be willing
to show it to whatever publishers I run across. I'm too overloaded with work to
be efficient but by accident something might come of it.
Re Creeley
400 Fargo
Buffalo N.Y. 14213
716-886-0475
Anyone you write to, you're welcome to use my name to say I encouraged you to
write, or suggested, etc.
[6]
Jan 3, 76*
Dear David Cope:
Received your booklet Go today &
read it, some firmness I've always liked in most poems and many many lines throughout the pages—as I keep saying it's
always a pleasure to read your words because you're always (almost) saying some
thing clear about something clearly seen. I keep thinking there must be
something I can or shd do to circulate your work or
try to help you get a book published. Harder to arrange
readings for $ without a book to circulate. I forgot, but I think
I wrote you about this; I will try to get St. Mark's Church Poetry Project to
sponsor a reading and will work on what I can via Naropa
Institute next summer.
"frozen wind rips at our ears" rips
is terrific.
"Where there's sorrow let me be there" poem Reznikoff
[written for memory of
C.R.] is sharp & clear and heartfelt. Labor Day
funeral cortege "the women
covering their faces" is visible. The poem maybe
the most consistently
transparent, clear. "Just another face among so
many" —OK even sorta coincident
w/ Buddhist view. 60's war recollections are fine! Did
you try the NY Times???
"faces chew rolls…racing thru heavy traffic…Big
dipper above trees" are definite
Birth's a well told
story.
The Farm's solid—reminds me of
my own Eclogue.
The Field has concentrations as in a
single moment of old Haiku. Terrific
swiftness like yr near simultaneous sun burst &
shotgun blast. I really do
appreciate your alertness & precision…I mean yr
alertness & precision is
appreciable by others, you make yr perceptions so
evident.
TV's snowstorm's accurate decade summary again.
from "hospital corridors" to velvet
lavenders of paradise (like your
"telephone poles silhouetted against lavender
sky") to bleak Orion straddling sky,
that last poem is an interesting attempt to make a
complete cycle of "ordinary
mind" vasty
vision—real interesting condensation. —Thanks—
Allen
[Sidebar:] Did I send
your recent pamphlet old letters to Eberhart? If not
I'll send one. A.G.
*Cope notes: probably misdated. Subject matter
indicates this letter was written in Jan 1977, as is the case with the letter
following.
[7]
Jan 14, 76*
Dear David Cope:
Thanks for new Big Scream—always
interested to see yr progress report on the history of your space & your
head In it—I think a lot of people are wondering
how they "put the violence behind me." Calm wakening all thru this
set of poems, curiosity about the tangled nets everyone is in—& lots
of [illegible] details! (faces, [illegible] and all
[illegible]).
Oddly possible as you know, but also Peace
+ the others would seem [appropriate] on the op ed pages, if anyone had energy [illegible] & push
yr texts there. I keep feeling I ought to try, = then [illegible] no it's (yr
work) too delicious exactly as it is calm by itself (and anyway I'm a vicious
busybody).
All David Montgomery's short prose pieces were solid and full
of real detail, I liked them,
I'm enclosing a book from a friend I haven't seen in years, but like his
book—different style than yours but very live and generous—Andy
Clausen.
Yours
Allen Ginsberg
P.S. Please keep sending me what you
print [address follows]
[*Again,
the probable date for this letter is 1977—as per its contents. DC]
[8]
American Airlines
In
Flight… Jan 25, 77
Altitude…
over U.S.A.
Dear David:
Flying for half week Buddhist meditation $ benefit UCLA and a niteclub act at Café Troubadour 2 nites
w/ musicians singing Blake + Blues & reading new poems.
I just spent 2 weeks in Baltimore woodshedding with
18 year old poet friend both of us reading 6-10 hours a day from beginning to
end the Complete Poetry & Prose of William Blake, I'm up to the last mature
porphyry-voiced pages of Jerusalem
and it's led my mind thru inspired changes. Blake's system is not hard to
understand if you read his work from beginning to end, and as it got clearer it
seemed a sublime investigation + his Ambition + creation greater than any other
literary poet—Jerusalem's pure gold mind & poesy & voice. Erdman's
big paperback complete illustrated illuminated books in black + white, +
Bloom's notes at back of Erdman—Bloom Complete text + Keynes' paperback
oxford complete works in chronological order (tho
over-punctuated) + S. Foster Damon's paperback Blake Dictionary are the 4 books you need to penetrate the whole
panorama + locate all the characters + their symbolic function. It all
boils down to 4 Principles (Zoas) [:] Reason (Urizen) Imagination (Urthona
+ Los) Body (Tharmas) and Emotions (Luvah) trying to dominate each other, going out of synch,
thus becoming "spectres" of themselves by
getting cut off from their "Emanations" or projections of feminine
sympathy. So all the prophetic books are Blake's vision of them in Combat,
using personal + contemporary history for scenes & exaggerating the themes
in cosmic-large humor, and describing all the disrelations
+ their psychological consequences + historical unfoldings
till the prophesied whole man "Albion" be reunited with his emanation
"Jerusalem" + all four, Reason, Imagination, Emotion, + Body
cooperate democratically. That's the basic theme, worked out in delicate
detail—
"Labor well the minute particulars, attend to the
Little Ones:
And those who are in misery cannot remain so long
If we do but our duty: labor well the teeming Earth" -
Jerusalem plate 55 1. 51-53
Reading all that inspired me to write 25
page long line blakean poem with 2 characters [,] old
letcherous bard + young chaste messenger in
Poetic-erotic contest, a sort of autobiographical play-out of my own
projections in symbolic form, fertile way, I never did that before—or not
since 1950.
I read aloud most of Paradise Lost
(first time I read it thru) late last year also—that helped get a fix on
Blake, both his sound and his revision of Biblic-Miltonic
symbolism. I think I'll go on this year + read all Shelley
chronologically, & Fairy Queen of
Spencer, & Byron & Wordsworth's Prelude
+ Excursion, etc. things I put off
impatient but now I'm fifty and those works are fascinating to me for the first
time. Epic poetry's not impossible to create now. Also in Baltimore
read Shakespeare's Sonnets thru (relating to my own love themes) & Poe's
poetry while visiting his grave & tiny brick house—great rhythm +
really interesting aesthetic of Beauty, some actual Eidolon not to be despised,
tho obsessive.
All last year I read + taught Williams, Reznikoff,
& associated naturalist-imagists Marsden Hartley's poems (Dig those! rare
book, Holt 1945 (?)); Lawrence's poems, Keroauc
poems; some Rakosi; Blythe's 4 vols. Haiku—and
for Naropa classes taught + sang Elizabethan ballads
+ Campion + Nash’s lyrics out of various standard anthologies —and lots
of Wordsworth + Shelley standard pieces with my dying father—who said of
W.W.'s Immortality's "…we come from God who is our home" "that's
beautiful, but it's not true." I also read him Bryant's Thanatopsis which he'd always taught in high school-a little motheaten but not bad mood. This kid poet friend is an
imperious maniac reader who keeps pushing me to read poesy + stop being a
poetry businessman. So we went off together to read Blake==& every few days
in Johns Hopkins library consulted the Trianon Press
facsimile editions of Blake's colored plates of each book—all available
now in libraries. If you've never seen his Jerusalem in printed facsimile
you've got a sublime brilliant surprise for your eyeballs to eat. Odd you asked
me what I've been reading of late because I've been really immersed in
prophetic readings, just came home yesterday, + flying off today with Collected
Blake to finish over L.A. on jetplane before I land.
Yes keep sending me poems, they always are a satisfaction to read + sustain my
pleasure at knowing your mind + eyes + presence. If I'm slow at answering don't
mind I get into busy jags—now isolate on plane there's some time.
I'll be in Naropa Boulder June 1 to Aug
23—there is plenty room in my apartment you can stay at all you like, use
my room. Peter Orlovsky will be at Naropa probably, so the house will be almost
empty––his girlfriend Denise Felin [check
name] will be there in and out—address is 437 E 12 st.
Apt. 23, no bell downstairs, yell up at front window or phone from around the
corner 212-777-6786.
Larry Fagin + others Rochelle Kraut [inserted after others] who work at St.
Marks live in the same building. I think they are trying to arrange some
reading for you at St. Marks—Larry has your books—maybe I'll be
able to find out more when I return early January. In any case you have a place
to stay + eat here. The apt. is between Ave. A + First
Ave, 3 block from St. Marks Church—where I'll read with Robert Lowell Jan
23. Or pass by Naropa Boulder in Summer.
I once read a lot of Baudelaire + my Angel kid has read every
translation-apparently, If you don't know french (I
do) you have to read all the translations to get a good idea. Penguin
might have a prose tr. Duncan's Opening of the Field turned me on, as a
leaved book, esp his line of
Pindar poem referring to Whitman. I'll be reading with Duncan April 7 in
Colorado, after 2 weeks teaching at Naropa Boulder. I
love Clausen's phrasings—
"I had just come back
from the enemy must be killed" etc.
And some of his extravagant-realistic
conceptions like "the derelict women poets are coming,"
it's a great humor often really intelligent + surprisingly individual, original
self-mind. The poem about "The Star" is great, as story +
phrasing—quite serious + sad, I've cried over its truthfulness, reading
it to sneering dumb untruthful students sometimes. Clausen's "dumb"
but he's a dumb genius in a way, with godly insights—his compassion's
real—"are they death's children?"—the
bums he means. His domestic idealism is unusual and delightful.
Any answer from Harvey Shapiro N.Y. Times? New Rose equally good as others in Go
book [Cope's chapbook after Stars]—you
ask for criticism, The first section's o.k. but not as true in detail as marvelous dreamed
stream—because the generalizations aren't nailed down enuf—"prophesies
of doom" [illegible] no more gas or protein crisis or greenhouse effect
smog maybe—some specific doom—"robot politicians" isn't
gleaming enough lacking more grisly specificity—"attend to the
little ones." From a thousand Turks buried alive thru Israel it gets
better into more accurate therefore funny-serious focus. So 4
lines—"prophesies of doom" "angry governors etc"
"population doubles, etc" and "wars + rumors etc" could be
enlivened as the [illegible] + cows are more live. For the rest it's almost
totally delicate. "Production number" that one lives is a little
weaker than the rest of that section which ends solid + specific in its
lines. OK. See you sooner or later—Best wishes—Allen
(Ginsberg).
[9]
[Xerox of June 7, 1977 letter to Allen
from James Laughlin, granting permission that poems about Allen's father appear
first in Ferlinghetti's book and saying he hasn't yet
located Cope's pamphlet, also glad that "Gregory will be there under your
wing." Handwritten message for Cope is at end: "Xerox for" … etc.]
New Directions Publishing Corporation
333 Sixth Avenue
New York City 10014
AL 5-0230 Cable:
Newbooks
June 7, 1977
Mr. Allen Ginsberg
c/o Naropa Institute
1111 Pearl Street
Boulder, Colorado
80302
Dear Allen:
Many thanks for your letter written from City Lights not long ago.
I don't mind if the sequence of poems about your father appears in Ferlinghetti's book before our annual. It would be of
significance to me to use those poems about your father because I liked him so
much.
I wonder if I ever received the pamphlet from David Cope. The poetry books are
all pretty well alphabetized, and it doesn't turn up where it should, if I had
it.
[sidebar, in
Allen's hand:] Tell Cope to send pamphlets.
Fred [inserted, in Allen's hand: MARTIN] has been collecting your various sendings to him, but I haven't seen them yet, and I doubt
if we can get anything more into "ND36," as my last page count was
right up to the top of the barrel. But there is always another one
following on half a year later.
I didn't know that Shig had left City Lights. The
place can't be the same without him.
I hope Naropa will have a great summer, and give my
best to the poets. I am glad that Gregory will be there under your wing.
Very best, as ever,
James Laughlin
[in AG's hand:] Xerox for David Cope
c/o NADA Press/ B Scream
696 48th ST. S.E.
Grand Rapids, Mich 49508
[10]
[Undated] Naropa
Inst. 1111 Pearl St. Boulder Colo. 80302
Dear David—
I left all three yr pamphlets with Ferlinghetti who
may or may not appreciate them as I do, and who lacks money for new books, tho he is considering publishing a new City Lites Journal or a book of 3 poets I recommended. But he's
unsure.
James Laughlin compiling poems for New Directions semi-annual anthology, writes (from 333 6th Ave. N.Y.C. 10014) "I
wonder if I ever received the pamphlet from David Cope. The poetry books are
all pretty well alphabetized, and it doesn't turn up where it should, if I had
it." He's forgotten he wrote me a nice note about Stars a year ago—getting' old. Anyway, please send him
all 3 pamphlets anew with note I said to re-supply him. OK Allen
Ginsberg.
[11]
Ginsberg + Ferlinghetti July 11,
77
Dear David—did I send you the
enclosed already? Please send them copy of your books. Also send Ferlinghetti who read my copies of all 3 books. Also
can you send copies of Go + later
book to Naropa Library (they have Stars) 111 Pearl St. Boulder Colo.
Did Roof write you? Bill me for all this above. In haste
Love Ginsberg
Allen
[12]
7/23/77
c/o
Naropa Institute
1111 Pearl St.
Boulder, Colo. 80302
[Handwritten:] Dictated
Dear David Cope
I got both your pamphlets (i.e. mimeo and
typewritten) I read both will reply more
later; no Ferlinghetti is not tired of publishing;
just keep him and Fred Martin at New Directions supplied with your work and
each time to N.D. remind Martin that Ginsberg requested your work be shown to
Laughlin. What was name of last eight by twelve booklet you sent me
before True Love with Mae West Angel
cover? [Handwritten:] I left it w/ Ferlinghetti,
+ he hasn't returned it yet.
Allen
[13]
May 27, 78
Dear David—
Nice to meet you + family. —leaving for Naropa June 6—then a month retreat in Calif—back to N.Y. October—If you need be you
can reach me in Boulder or via City Lights—Have a weird summer!—
Love
Allen
[14]
c/o
Naropa 1111 Pearl Street Boulder Colo. 80302 A.
Ginsberg Feb. 18, 1980
Dear David: To clarify matters a
little—since I working remote-control so to speak, thru Jim Cohn who's
been industrious—What I'm trying to do is 1.) Assemble all your
work I dig most as gems, solid hard 2.) Cut and
edit + retype for your consideration a few major or minor poems which seem
otherwise flawed but could be reduced to hard elements. All this as a first stage to preparing a giant (so it seems) mss.
from which to choose 48 pps.
from the City Lights Books of 3 poets 48 pps. each. It looks like you
have a lot more material than that. I've done first editing, Jim C. does
retyping + advice. Antler's withdrawn his mss. but it
can't fit on page properly, + Ferlinghetti does not
want to go beyond what he, somewhat doubtfully offered—a book of 3 poets.
I've asked Robert Meyers if he has a mss. Your
own book looks so big + good maybe we should try out Black Sparrow or N.Y. for
a big whole book? I don't know. I want to do good but am overwhelmed with high
blood pressure this year from being too ambitious in plans + dreams +
frustrated in working them out—2 [illegible] words fine.
[right sidebar:]
P.S. Feb. 19 I've gone thru half the mss. now, zeroing
in on poems or workable parts to think best with work we've done
already—OK Allen. I have to digest + integrate yr letter.
[15]
c/o
Naropa Institute
1111 Pearl Street
Boulder Colorado
80302—March 1, 1980
[Recommendation letter, first paragraph
of which became Foreword to Quiet Lives,
my first book. DC]
To Whom it May
Concern:
I have been much absorbed in David Cope's poetry as necessary continuation of
tradition of lucid grounded sane objectivism in poetry following the visually
solid practice of Charles Reznikoff
& William Carlos Williams. Though the notions of "objectivism"
were common for many decades among U.S. poets, there is not a great body of
direct-sighted "close to the nose" examples of poems that hit a
certain ideal objectivist mark—"No ideas but in things"
consisting of "minute particulars" in which the "natural object
is always the adequate symbol", works of language wherein "the mind
is clamped down on objects". and where these
"Things are symbols of themselves." The poets I named above
specialized in this refined experiment, and Pound touched on the subject as did Zukofsky and
Bunting, and lesser but interesting figures such as Marsden Hartley in his
little known poetry, and more romantic writers such as D.H. Lawrence. In this
area of phanapoeiac "focus," the sketching
of particulars by which a motif is recognizably significant, David Cope has
made, by the beginning of his third decade, the largest body of such work that
I know of among poets of his own generation.
I have corresponded with him for years and in the last half year have helped
edit a selection which City Lights plans to anthologize in a book of three
poets (Cope, Andy Clausen & Robert Meyers—each young, unpublished and
touched with some original genius in my opinion.) After eliminating dross,
there remains a book of 130 pages, of which City Lights can publish only a 40 page selection. I suggested to David Cope that he send
his work out more widely for publication, and offered to write a short
introductory note for that purpose, which this page serves.
Sincerely
yours,
Allen Ginsberg
[16]
Frankfurt
December 14 [or 17] 1980
Dear David:
Peter + I + young guitarist been travelling in Europe the last 2 months—Jugoslavia + Hungary, Austria Germany Switzerland Amsterdam
+ doubling back down the Rhine before flying home tomorrow. Here's Mad King
Ludwig's Bavarian New Swan castle. Communist Bureaucrats a drag,
Capitalist violent exploitation a drag, Innocent Anarchism lacks protection
(like also John Lennon.) Where to go? —Hope you're well. Ferlinghetti said before I left he was doubtful he'd have
the money to do our book. What did you think of my choices? I'll be in
N.Y. till March [illegible] for readings/travel.
As ever, Allen
Ginsberg.
[17]
Dec. 30, 1980
[Stamped from NYC, on Lamar Hotel
Stationary, Houston]
Dear David—
Back from Hungary + Europe _ Houston. Red Bureaucracy
a drag, got yr letter, "Don't mourn one who could give his heart
away" is OK. on Lennon.
Too much paper I'm fatigued, can't write better. Just to say Happy New Year
this scribble.
"Bitter Angry" young poets, I get lotsa
that electric, over decades. Lennon took a bit himself.
I got the New Blood mag—The
Landlady + Abandoned Hotel
perfect. Lelia
I liked, but couldn't figure exactly what "the news" was, she kicked
the bucket? Thanksgiving
less sharp, tho a unified theme.
No heart for letters.
Regards to Ken Mikolowski.
Allen
When I get some strength I'll try to work
on publisher for yr book again. Try Fred Martin New Directions?
[18]
Jan 16, 1981
Dear David—
Why don't you enter this? Send me a xerox a choice of
a dozen poems packaged up and I'll send them on to Grace Schulman whom I've
seen recently.
Otherwise it's a sorta
dreary poesy center.
As ever
Allen
I think Nation might like some of the boat people Vietnam poems. or whatever—
Did you apply for NEA grant—? Deadline Feb 15. Do it!
[19]
June 1981
Dear David––
Back from months in Europe. I liked Fresh Blood, Landlady & Abandoned
Hotel, & also Lelia,
though in the latter, but there's something missing (some clue)—she died?
Not sure? Of what? I don't know—something left
out?
Up late (1:40 AM) answering piles of mail. Antler's
book's out. Ferlinghetti fudged on the
book with you + Clausen + Meyers. How's he responding to your charms now?
Have you tried Black Sparrow, and Blue Wind Press? And
Jeffrey Miller of Cadmus Ed. Box 4725 Santa Barbara, Calif. 93130?
Happy New Year. I'm exhausted for the moment. Regards to Suzie.
As ever
Allen
Keep it up!
A
Quiet Life—Thanks, plenty nice poems there. For
Politics—"American Protest" is the sharpest.
[20]
December 9, 1981
[Note: Asked by Time reporter about the future of poetry,
Allen responded with names of several younger poets to watch. Time reported my
name inaccurately, and Allen wrote the letter below to correct the error; it
was not published. DC]
Allen Ginsberg
P.O. Box 582
Stuyvesant Station
New York, New York 10009
Time
Time & Life Building
Rockefeller Center
New York, New York, 10020
Dear Sirs,
I was happy to mention several unpublished young poets for your readers' notice
in your reportage of my reading of "Howl" (and new poems and songs)
at McMillin Theatre (Dec. 7, '81). I'm
glad to see you name-dropped at least one: David Cope, 2782 Dixie SW.,
Grandville, Michigan, 49418, editor of "Big Scream"/ Nada Press.
However, you referred to him as "David Pope in Grand Rapids."
Some brilliant avant-garde publisher among your readers may find this
correction useful and seek out Mr. Cope. He or she might also print the
powerful unpublished poems of Andy Clausen, R.D. 2, Cherry
Valley, N.Y. 13320.
Sincerely,
Allen Ginsberg
You have permission to print this letter
without changes. If any changes are useful, please consult me in advance.
C.C. William
A Henry III
David
Cope
[21]
Jan 7, 81 7
AM
Dear David
Thos Lanigan
Humana Press Inc
Crescent Manor
POB 2148 Clifton, N.J.
201-773-4389
Up all night answering letters, aching back. Been working a little with Clash, a british rock group, improving lyrics + singing basso,
one cut.
Plutonian Ode's
out, Poems 1977-80.
I don't have Oppen's #—
Geo Oppen
2811 Polk St. S. F. Cal. 9419
415-771-1615
I love your poetry as ever. Sorry the (your) name got fucked up in Time or was it People mag. I was trying + tried again in present Amer. Book Review to refer publishers to
your poems C+ you.)
Going to Nicaragua for 1 week, late January. Travelling a lot. Clausen is on
Committee on Poetry Farm, RD 2 Cherry Valley, N.Y.
Keep sending me your mimeo pamphlets, I read them the day I get them + am
always pleased in fact moved delighted knocked out when you hit a solid ball
clear visible out of the
park into the what was it trees or darkness outside?
Have you
sent poems ever to Robt Creeley
Eng Dept
SUNY AB
Buffalo, N.Y.?
Peter'll aprreciate yr word,
encouragement.
Allen
Regards to family + Happy New Year
[22]
November 7, 1982
Dear David:
Enclosed typed note useful re readings.
Randy Roark at Poetics dept. will contact you for a bloc of poetry for a little
scream we're editing here. I'll leave Dec. 3 for NY> Paris etc. Scandinavia.
in haste as usual
Allen Ginsberg
[23]
November 1982
Boulder, Co.
Dear David,
I would like to give readings with you but have no date in the Midwest now,
only the East and South. Will be free some weeks in March-April 1983 if you can
set up any readings with me near your territory. I'll be glad to give you one
third of my fee, as my fee is under $2000—that's a bit of money.
However, itinerary and fees have to be arranged with my agent Charles
Rothschild (3330 E. 48 St., New York City, 10017, 212-752-8753). He can
also supply precis biography and photos a la
professional agent. I'll send him a note. Secretary Maxine will handle.
This is in haste—off to Europe Dec. 3 from N.Y. till February. This note
gives you the o.k. to arrange readings for
us—
Love Allen
[24]
Charleville,
Dec 21, 82
Dear David—Finally
came to Poetic Holyland, Rimbaud's home town--staying 2 nites in his old apartment—listening to
incomprehensible French lectures on Rimbaud + alchemy. How sad his dark old
wooden steep stairway, + the toilet in his old flat! —Love
Allen G.
[25]
[illegible] June
8, 83
Dear David—I don't have the Follett
address, or editor—Anthology sounds good, I'm working with Randy Roark at
Naropa on similar Friction (his) magazine project,
similar + small.
Amiri Baraka—808 South 10th St. Newark N.J.
07003. David Henderson
might
help—I don't have his address here. After I got copies of Quiet Lives [illegible]—I sent one
off to Gordon Ball in [illegible] student—and one is in the Naropa Library. I'm in [illegible] few days, thence
to W. Virginia for reading, thence to Boulder + Rocky Mt. Dharma Center for monthlong retreat—thence July 13-Aug. 15 to work
a week each with
Snyder + Creeley—then NY Aug 20-Sept
2—then Naropa thru Fall to Dec—then come
back to N.Y. + stay home a year, work on papers—write operas—stare
at the moon—
Love Allen
P.S. Steve Kowit
of San Diego is an interesting poet—don't know his face only a book.
Gregory Corso here [illegible]
[26]
Naropa
2130 Arapahoe Boulder Colo. 80302
10/30/83 1:30 AM
Dear David: Vajadhatu Sun printed only 1/2 my essay. The meatier stuff is in book.
Trungpa wrote long narrative autbiog
(w. English lady help) "Born in Tibet" which gives adventures + trek
across Himalaya. I eliminated the theoretic stuff in book essay, which bored
you (+ me) in Sun version.
Send Rixon chapbook or anything else you print. I'm
working on 6 page Dream Vision of my mother a sort of
epilogue to Kaddish
25 years later—White Shroud,
this month. But nothing new published.
Do you have Birdbrain single record?
I also made tape of Jessore Road with [illegible] string quarter
Jan 2 1983 Amsterdam, Steven Taylor conducting his score, me singing. Now I'm
reading + teaching Poe, [illegible] poems, Emily D. + Walt W. —Allen
Ginsberg.
[left sidebar:] White Shroud came from reading E. A. Poe
complete poesy.
[27]
11/16/83 Naropa
2130 Arapahoe Boulder 80302
Dear David:
Rick McMonagle an interesting poet ex-student was
here for tea so I loaned him the new Big
Scream + Rixon's fine pamphlet to read + show
around. I've been in touch with Rixon before but not
read his writing till you sent it. Jessore Road tape
I'm still working on but it's not done.
Oy Govolt! What if they go
on to invade Nicaragua! Emerson ode 1846 "Behold the famous states/
Harrowing Mexico/ with rifle and with knife." Now I'm reading through
Emily Dickinson. Just back from weekend w/ Kesey _
Tibetan lama in Eugene Oregon + reading with "Gregor
Samsa" a rock band at Reed College. Guillen's work I don't know well. An older man now wasn't
helpful to young Cubans pushed around by Socialist bureaucracy—caught in
the middle—Do you know the Portugese turn of
century extravagant poet Fernando Pessoa?
—As ever—Allen Ginsberg
[28]
April Fools Day 84
Dear David—
I wish Randy R. had sense to put twice as many of your poems (which I'd pulled
out in the huge fields of empty paper where your (+ Bobby Meyers) poems
occupied only the top of the page. Well I wasn't on the spot. He worked so hard
I haven't heart to complain tho it [illegible] down the anthology unnecessarily.
You sound happily energetic—I'm frantic with unfinished work w Collected
Poems + Collected Existence as well.
Short of ink—Allen Ginsberg
[29]
1/18/84 1 AM
[letter
inscribed among words of invitation]
Dear
David—Enclosed postcard typescript corrected
one
line added to explain West Lake (Park)—
ALLEN GINSBERG
I'll
send you a copy of my collected poems
MEMORY GARDENS
SELECTED PHOTOGRAPHS 1953-84
from
Harper + Row this week—photo show
been
a pleasure—yes Creeley Mirrors poems
JANUARY 4-26, 1985
OPENING RECEPTION, SUNDAY, JANUARY 6, 2-5
PM
in
China at a dozen universities—No new typescripts
tho I wrote lots in China
—Happy New Year—
Holly Solomon Gallery
724 FIFTH AVENUE NEW YORK 10019
212/757-7777
I'll
be reading in Detroit (Institute of Arts) c/o Geo Tysh
on
Feb
14 + at Flint C.S. Mott College Feb. 15––Love Allen
[next
page: postcard from China transcribed by me; I sent it back to Allen as
poem needing his corrections, which he made; poem was later published in Big Scream (either issue #21 or
#22—I no longer have, sold out—possibly in U of Michigan
files) It hasn't appeared in Allen's books, but is excellent late example
of Allen's use of objectivist focus & a favorite of mine, containing ecological
& community health observations, Chinese government thought control
bureaucrats, landscape appreciation, older famous man's envy of freer hippies,
travelogue & completion of life circle dream of Han-Shan with Gary Snyder.
Please note that in mss. you may refer to both #30 and
#31—the first [#30] my typewritten transcription with Allen's emendations
for poesy publication, the second (#31) the actual script of the postcard.]
[30]
November 11, 1984 Sunday afternoon
Dear David: hazy in steamer lounge
3'd day down Yangtze River, yesterday
passed vast mountain gorges and hairpin
river-bends, mist sun and cement Factory
soft Coal dust everywhere, all China
got a big allergic cold. Literary dele-
gation homebound after 3
weeks, now I'm
travelling separate like I used to--except
everywhere omnipresent kindly Chinese
Bureaucracy meets me at airports & boats
& takes me to tourist hotels & orders meals.
I'm
trying to figure a way out--envious of 2
bearded hippies travelling 4th class in
steerage eating Tangerines & bananas--
sleepers in passageways on mats, Chinese
voyagers playing checkers. Saw Beijing,
Great Wall, tombs & palaces, Suchow's
Tang Gardens, Handchow's West Lake walkway
dyke to hold the giant water in the years of drought
built by governors of Tsu-Tung-Po
and Po-Chu-I.
Saw Cold Mt. Temple w/ Snyder who'd
heard its bell echo across years.
Love Allen Ginsberg
[31]
2/4/86 6
AM
[Computer poemscripts
enclosed with this letter: Written in My
Dream by W.C. Williams, It's All So Brief, No Longer. See next
letter—Allen had to withdraw the first of these from Big Scream because Poetry
( Chicago) had accepted the poem on condition that it
be unpublished.]
Dear David,
Here are 3 poems—finished mss. of White Shroud Poems 80-85, —from
latter mss. My agent probably sent them elsewhere but no harm if you print them
first in tiny big scream.
Also enclosed 2 poems I received in mail from one Chris Ide an odd kid (20? 18?) been writing me from East Lansing.
The writing seems straightforward.
Back from Nicaragua—Marxist one party state halfway, but cheerful + grim,
faced w/ U.S.A. thugs—at least freer + more diverse + pluralist than El
Salvador where Deathsquads hit the journalists
instead of censors
As ever
Allen
Up working all nite
trying to answer mail—Ah! ugh! Help!
[32]
Feb. 14, 1986
Dear David:
My agent sent the Williams dream poem to Poetry
mag, Chicago, where I've never published a poem +
they took it but sent form saying it can't have been published in any form
before. So don't print that one in Big
Scream, use the other 2 short poems I sent. I did send 3 (incl. WCW yes?
I'd phone you for swiftness but lack your phone number. Forgive the
self-referential postcard [photo of Allen], I just got
a dozen from Mary Beach [photographer]. How you doing? I've finished
"White Shroud" poems 1980-85 in which those poems will be put,
working on line-by-line & finished w/ Part I [illegible] Annotated Howl.
Love as ever Allen
Re Naropa yes
I'll do what I can but Anne Waldman's the boss—write to her.
[33]
3/24/86
Dear David: of course you can use the
photo—I only wish there were one in which we're both standing up straight
without a flashbulb (it looks like)—Antler's book is great looking,
amazing! —congratulations on yours—Allen
[34]
4/7/86 1:30 AM N.Y.C.
Deard
David—
I did send you 3 poems did you get them? Re yr card 3 March—I've been
away so didn't read it till now.
Yes Steven set several Horace songs, but not recorded them. He's working w/
Sanders (Ed) on Star Peace opera, +
with Kenward Elmslie, and
me, + others. How's yr book coming. Did you contact
Anne for Naropa? Did you see Antler's Last Words (Ballantine?)—
Love Allen G.
[right sidebar:]
Just read your Feb. 86 letter I've been away—will answer later. —railroad roundhouse / wears a wreath of fog is
classic.
[35]
4/18/86 N.Y.C.
Dear David: Yes I'll be in Boulder July
13-17 and if I have a class you can teach it and I'll pay you. I got more fine
poems from Chris Ide. Got Antler Ballantine;
can't seem to get any help for Clausen, maybe his mss. needs
an unmessy editor. —well,
soon—Allen
[right sidebar:]
Tell Humana to send new book to Amer. Academy c/o Lydia Karin [uncertain; check
name]
[36]
N.Y.C. 2/4/87
Dear David—On [The] Bridge arrived, not yet time to read thru. Kinnell 432
Hudson St. N.Y. N.Y. 10014. Sent you 2 books Shroud + Howl. Bklyn College term began yesterday, I'm buried under mountain of paper—mail,
photos, mss. untyped, I'll
shut up awhile. Yours as ever
Allen Ginsberg
[right sidebar:]
Sky spread stars interesting mind-mix
[37]
[Joint undated letter from Chris Funkhouser, Chris Ide, and
Allen:]
Hi Dave walked to the top o' the cape w/
Steve Silberman last week, now with Chris Ide & Allen in N.Y.C. Lots of fun in recording studio w
Fugs & in [illegible] Park & Brooklyn. Will
write more soon—Funkster
Hello Dave—will be in N.Y. till
Sat., then to E. Lansing, Grand Rapids, will phone—N.Y. is nuts but I'm
sober & soakin it up. All ya
love—Chris
Boys are ok here; Peter is silent &
on the fence, can't tell what'll happen. Chris Ide
read thru 1000 pages Antler Boy [illegible] mss. I'm still limping from Boulder
fall. No new poems. Saw Dali w/ big bomber joint in dream. —Allen
Ginsberg
[38]
4/17/87
[Allen's response to my request to
re-publish his early essay, "Poetry, Violence and the Trembling
Lambs."]
Dear David—I'll see if I can xerox the essay (originally S.F. Chronicle) + send you. Outdated therein last paragraph
perhaps. Jackie Gens asked if you could stay in my Varsity apartment a week
while you're there I said OK, & OK to have people over. I have other people
coming in and out to stay with me other weeks—assuming Peter Orlovsky doesn't come to Naropa
in which case he'll need the room all summer + we'll have to make other
arrangements. Trungpa died 7:05 this last Saturday.
As ever—Allen
[39]
2/14/88
[This letter and the next prepping me for
my visit to NYC to speak at Brooklyn College in Living Poets Series. When I
actually arrived, Allen & I were both exhausted from our respective busy
lives—at one point we slept 20 hours straight, walking together every few
hours for tea or to talk, then falling asleep again. A high point of the trip
was our dinner at Christine's, where we had light meals & big German
chocolate cake together as Allen signed autographs for excited children of
Danish visitors to U.S.A. who sat across the restaurant & recognized him.
DC]
Dear David—The class of 20 or so
are undergrads not writing students. You can stay on past 4:30 to join me in
5:30-8:00 workshop but they bring new poems in each week and I improvise.
Hope your leg improves.
I think I sent you reading poster + syllabus by now for lecture class we'll do
together on living poets.
OK—
Just back from Israel
—Allen
Rc'd
Big Scream w Peter Hale photo—I
think charming—any problems?
[40]
2/23/88
Dear David—
Did you receive syllabus & reading poster? That gives you outline what's
being taught + in what sequence—yet teach your own poetry + the poetry that
you feel akin to by taste + historical circumstance, especially yr predecessors
+ friends as indicated. The class folk are often intelligent but not widely
read, this is an intro to poetry not a superscholarly
one, but at least a live class. I'm not sure who in class of 20 or so
have "Real future scholarly intentions," there might be a few, if you
ask, but they may be too young to decide—it's not like the gang of
spiritual desperadoes at Naropa.
Yes that's fine April 16-19. I leave for a week at Naropa
Tues the 9th, also. I do like that Big
Scream cover too.
OK thanks—received your pamphlet of poems also—
Allen
[41]
[Cope's annotation: 4/2/90]
Dear David—
Got your new
book, thanks, excellent
These poems were in a sheaf handed to me in
a theater in L.A.—kind of nice—can return
to sender if you
don't want the clutter—As ever
Allen
Been seeing Czbech [check spelling]
"Plastic
People" associates here—going to Prague April 25—
May 5 with Sasaki Nanao
Allen Ginsberg
Notes
from David Cope for Barry Miles [1995]
These transcriptions were originally done for Barry Miles, who wanted Allen’s letters to me for a project he was considering at the time. My notes here are explanations of the idiosyncrasies of my notation [2011].
1. Allen has underlined some titles and
neglected to do so with others; in some letters, this causes a problem if the
reader is not familiar with my work or the work being discussed. Often he would
name the title and follow it with a brief quotation from the poem or comment on
it. I have put them all in italics—easier to make sense of what he's
doing in the letter if one knows some words are parts of titles while others
are quoted material from those poems.
2. Explanatory notes, as needed, are
placed in brackets either before or after the letter each explains.
3. Some of my xerox
copies of letters are barely legible, either because Allen's handwriting is too
difficult to decode or the copies themselves are faint; I have deciphered
whatever I could, placing "illegible" in brackets where I couldn't
make the word or words out. You will have to contact U of M for more legible
copies; if you need someone present in Ann Arbor, you might ask ifsomeone at Jewel Heart Center there might do errand.
Note from David Cope regarding Ginsberg Correspondence
I wrote the following note in 1995 to explain why the correspondence slackened after 1990.
After 1990, my correspondence with Allen, now more rare—the lessons learned & my turn to pass them on having come, both of us too busy—has been on the telephone; I continue to receive mss. by younger & promising poets from him on occasion. We meet at his readings or workings together at Naropa—sitting quietly together for an hour, as after his landmark reading of "Kaddish" at Ann Arbor Feb. 95, or dinner with Allen & Steve Silberman in Boulder cafe, Summer 94. No longer any need on my part to voice enthusiasms & excitements or query for connections, nor on Allen's part to promote my work & drive himself crazy doing it: now the pleasure is just sitting.